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Too many cars?

Post by Paulb » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:37 pm

So the garage will get a little overcrowded in 10 days tie with the arrival of another car, which means to be honest I may have to move on either my Mk1 Focus RS or the Alpina B3 3.3

I know what the market is like for the Focus - but not really paid any attention to the market for the Alpina.

Can anyone advise or offer up some pearls of wisdom so I can make a decision as to which one finds a new loving owner?
Nothing to see here.... move along in an orderly fashion please!
E91 D3 Bi-turbo Touring #004 - (sold)
E46 B3 3.3 Saloon #032
F31 D3 Bi-turbo Touring #172
Mk1 Focus RS #516
Mk3 Focus RS Heritage #8 of only 50
and a 1987 Sierra RS Cosworth (currently being restored)

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Post by robmarrs » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:04 pm

Looking at your garage I'd say if you are after collectability then keep the RS, I doubt any Alpina will ever give the same return, if it is about enjoyment then only you can decide that as it is very personal. Also depends what the new arrival is too

I sold my Concours MK2 RS2000, which I owned for 23 years, a number of years ago before the huge price rises of recent years, but it was not a great car to drive as it was massively tuned, had 172 rwhp running 48's and a lairy cam, I don't regret selling it, bought my TVR the day afterwards which drives much better for today's traffic even though it is now turbocharged, and the B6s is even better, don't get enough time to use them really.

Good luck with your decision
Alpina B6S Convertible
BMW E46 M3 SMG Coupe - stripped out track day weapon.
TVR Chimaera 400 - Turbocharged - Just mad and insanely quick!
Porsche Cayenne GTS 4.8, Oops, the dark side has landed!
BMW E34 Racing Dynamics K38 - Gone
Alpina B3S Convertible - Gone due to B6S
BMW X5 4.6is - Gone
Alpina Roadster 3.4S - Gone
BMW E46 330d M Sport Touring - Gone
BMW M3 Evo E36 - Gone due to B3S
BMW 840 Ci Sport - Gone, but what a car
BMW M3 E30 - sadly departed

Too little time...Too many cars!

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Post by Chas » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:34 pm

robmarrs wrote:I doubt any Alpina will ever give the same return
What he said...

... apart from that bit above. I agree with the sentiment in relation to a B10 3.3 but not if you're discussing some of the earlier Alpinas - B7, B12 Coupe, BT, B8, B6 etc

The RS200 sounds epic though :P

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Post by hap » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:15 pm

I know a facelift saloon I posted on here apparently went for 3.5k way too cheap it's a lovely spec so I'd be looking guide price 4.5 to 6k

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Post by simon13 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:48 pm

keep them all! I would if i had the space money!
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Post by robmarrs » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:11 pm

Chas wrote:
The RS200 sounds epic though :P
RS200?...if only....in my dreams, now worth a small fortune specially in Evo guise. I remember the Collins MS one go past me like I was standing still at Pembrey, spitting flames being chased by the Bailey MS Cossie powered RS2000 in the 90's. 600hp vs 500hp awesome.

And I agree that some Alpinas are destined for stardom amongst collectors, the real problem is that the potential number of purchasers are probably less than more mainstream icons. Have the original B6s E30 values matched E30 M3 values?
Alpina B6S Convertible
BMW E46 M3 SMG Coupe - stripped out track day weapon.
TVR Chimaera 400 - Turbocharged - Just mad and insanely quick!
Porsche Cayenne GTS 4.8, Oops, the dark side has landed!
BMW E34 Racing Dynamics K38 - Gone
Alpina B3S Convertible - Gone due to B6S
BMW X5 4.6is - Gone
Alpina Roadster 3.4S - Gone
BMW E46 330d M Sport Touring - Gone
BMW M3 Evo E36 - Gone due to B3S
BMW 840 Ci Sport - Gone, but what a car
BMW M3 E30 - sadly departed

Too little time...Too many cars!

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Post by Avtar » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:38 pm

so which one are you selling?
Alpina B4 Convertible
Alpina B3 3.3 Coupe 2003 (SOLD)
Alpina D5 BiTurbo (SOLD)
Alpina B3 S BiTurbo (SOLD)
F32 428i Luxury
E46 330ci Convertible
E70 X5 SD (SOLD)

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Post by Paulb » Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:51 am

The RS200 is an amazing car, but awful to drive unless you're dancing it along a rally stage.

The Bailey RS2000 battles at Donington were always awesome to watch, remember watching Paul Bailey & Steve Scott doing battle many a time.

Whilst I'd love to keep them all Simon, realistically it's the E46 that wouldn't get driven which is a shame as it's a superb car, fully loaded and the buffalo hide with Alpina blue & green piping looks stunning in the car. There's a couple of bits i'd prefer to do before selling, the rear lip on the boot needs respraying as it's got more stone chips than the front bumper oddly (how that could ever happen is beyond me but hey).
Nothing to see here.... move along in an orderly fashion please!
E91 D3 Bi-turbo Touring #004 - (sold)
E46 B3 3.3 Saloon #032
F31 D3 Bi-turbo Touring #172
Mk1 Focus RS #516
Mk3 Focus RS Heritage #8 of only 50
and a 1987 Sierra RS Cosworth (currently being restored)

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Post by Avtar » Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:58 pm

Paulb wrote:The RS200 is an amazing car, but awful to drive unless you're dancing it along a rally stage.

The Bailey RS2000 battles at Donington were always awesome to watch, remember watching Paul Bailey & Steve Scott doing battle many a time.

Whilst I'd love to keep them all Simon, realistically it's the E46 that wouldn't get driven which is a shame as it's a superb car, fully loaded and the buffalo hide with Alpina blue & green piping looks stunning in the car. There's a couple of bits i'd prefer to do before selling, the rear lip on the boot needs respraying as it's got more stone chips than the front bumper oddly (how that could ever happen is beyond me but hey).
I am just about to put my X5 up for sale and am looking at a second Alpina so if the timing is right perhaps we could have a chat?
Alpina B4 Convertible
Alpina B3 3.3 Coupe 2003 (SOLD)
Alpina D5 BiTurbo (SOLD)
Alpina B3 S BiTurbo (SOLD)
F32 428i Luxury
E46 330ci Convertible
E70 X5 SD (SOLD)

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Post by hap » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:03 pm

The interior is stunning on the B3
Hoping you can get something sorted btw yourselves

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Post by Paulb » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:27 am

Avtar wrote:I am just about to put my X5 up for sale and am looking at a second Alpina so if the timing is right perhaps we could have a chat?
Keep in touch, i'm in no rush and would prefer the car to go to someone who appreciates Alpinas.
Nothing to see here.... move along in an orderly fashion please!
E91 D3 Bi-turbo Touring #004 - (sold)
E46 B3 3.3 Saloon #032
F31 D3 Bi-turbo Touring #172
Mk1 Focus RS #516
Mk3 Focus RS Heritage #8 of only 50
and a 1987 Sierra RS Cosworth (currently being restored)

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Post by Avtar » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:44 pm

Paulb wrote:
Avtar wrote:I am just about to put my X5 up for sale and am looking at a second Alpina so if the timing is right perhaps we could have a chat?
Keep in touch, i'm in no rush and would prefer the car to go to someone who appreciates Alpinas.
Thanks, I am putting my X5 up in about two weeks time after I get back from weekend break, will PM you.
Alpina B4 Convertible
Alpina B3 3.3 Coupe 2003 (SOLD)
Alpina D5 BiTurbo (SOLD)
Alpina B3 S BiTurbo (SOLD)
F32 428i Luxury
E46 330ci Convertible
E70 X5 SD (SOLD)

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