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Sunday Times article on Keyless thefts

Post by ade and liz flint » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:05 am

I only just got round to reading last Sunday's Sunday Times InGear supplement. However, when I did.....a 2-page spread on keyless car thefts :evil:

There are a number of very interesting points they have highlighted within the article, some of which makes for quite shocking reading.

So in summary:-

1 This fault has been known about by security experts for 3 years, but only in the past year-or-so have there been reports of 'mysterious vehicle thefts'

2 Thatcham has investigated and discovered that keyless entry cars were soft targets and that there is no easy solution to the problem.

3 The thieves process is foolproof (Jason, you were so lucky, mate *phew*) and they use the modus operandi we're all aware of which takes a maximum of 3minutes.

4 National Statistics show car crime fell >10% 2010/11 to 2011/12, but theft of luxury cars increased.

5 Last year in London, 39% of cars stolen were taken without keys. 2years before, that rate was almost zero. It is estimated about 1000 cars were stolen in London by this method last year.

6 Equipment for this type of theft is readily available (ST reporters had no problem obtaining it)

Now, the REALLY SCARY ONE

7 Insurers are beginning to refuse payouts for this kind of theft. There is a case of a guy having his 335i stolen in this manner, to be told by his insurers ' Your vehicle is almost impossible to steal without the keys....without a key the vehicle would not have been removable [unless] via winching the vehicle onto a recovery truck or trailer'. To the owner the implication was very clear: he was in some way complicit in the disappearance of the car - hence their refusal to pay out. The ST has since forced the insurer to back down with their evidence and they have now paid him out.

8 BMW drivers are not the only ones affected (no $h1t sherlock) and Police are concerned that the longer the loophole goes unplugged, the more common the crime will become. They are, however, achieving some convictions (but far from enough IMO)

9 Insurance companies are warning that the thefts will start to affect policies if they continue to rise as they are now fully aware of this issue and I quote ' we'll be monitoring the situation and possibly insisting upon additional security features such as a tracking device'

10 The problem for car makers is that there is no easy way to make their cars more secure. BMW said (usual tripe) that its cars met British security standards but forced them to comply with EU rules re OBD ports. It also said its new models had been updated so keys could not be cloned with CURRENT programming devices.

11 Iain Wallace of Thatcham said ' in terms of a possible solution, the first obvious thing is to somehow restrict physical access to the diagnostic port. This currently would be against EU law.......'

So, guys. If you haven't got one, get at the very least a physical, visible deterrent to theft and USE IT! Always. If you can move/modify your OBD port, do it. Nothing in EU law stops owners modifying this, and you can either supply the servicing dealer with the modified cable, or tell him the new location of your port. Be aware that if you do something 'silly', ie a super-cap across the terminals, and it blows BMW's diag system, they may be after you for damages, so think about it carefully.

I will be sending a link to this post to Matt for his perusal on his return from holiday, and I'm adding it to the thread Charles started, too,

HTH some of you
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Post by Spoof » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:09 am

Thanks for the summary. Not great is it? As if our Alpinas aren't expensive enough to insure as it is.

Wonder how much work it is to shift the OBD to the centre armrest.

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Post by Philrose » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:16 am

Very good summary and not good reading.
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Post by ade and liz flint » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:27 am

Spoof wrote:Wonder how much work it is to shift the OBD to the centre armrest.
Extension cables are readily available on ebay and could be a very good investment :wink:
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Post by Silverbmw328 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:08 pm

Thanks for the update Adi.

I have an extra immobiliser fitted but after a few drive by's of a Scooby with blacked out window I put the steering lock on again last night but it's marking my new steering wheel... :?
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Post by ade and liz flint » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:14 pm

Silverbmw328 wrote:Thanks for the update Adi.

I have an extra immobiliser fitted but after a few drive by's of a Scooby with blacked out window I put the steering lock on again last night but it's marking my new steering wheel... :?
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Better keeping it with a marked SW than losing her, though, Andy :evil:
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Post by PerryGunn » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:39 pm

Here you go

link wont work....

Don't say I've never tried to help... :wink:
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Post by ade and liz flint » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:31 pm

:roll: Nothing on the link, Perry :cry:
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Post by PerryGunn » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:43 pm

B*ggr'it!

Fixed now...
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Post by Silverbmw328 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:12 pm

Nope... :?
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Post by PerryGunn » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:22 pm

Strange, I tested it both times after posting, and it was working - tinyURL must have removed it because it was pointing at something of 'dubious legality'

But it would teach the theevin' scroats a lesson :wink:
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Post by Cybermush » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:45 pm

Good write up Ade! :D

Coming from an electronics background as I do I've been following this with interest.

I've always worried about all this keyless entry and keyless start stuff. Once you get away from the physical aspects of keys turning in locks and put it in the hands of electronics you're wide open to hacking and interference from outside sources.

I've watched the youtube videos of how it's done, and most of the 3 mins seems to be waiting for the key to program. :roll:

But one thing gets me, why can the car tell you the key programming it needs anyway? Surely it's possible to release a software upgrade to remove this "feature" all together, then these key programmers won't work. I guess it's been put in for the dealer to set up a key, but of couse that's leaving it wide open for thieves.

I think going back to a mechanical lock and key such as a disklock is probably the most secure way of protecting your pride-and-joy.

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Post by Peter&Janet » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:00 pm

Excellent write up Ade.

Got to say I'll probably go with a mechanical lock of some description when I get home. Those big heavy yellow locks will probably save the windows being broken.
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Post by Stuart Truman » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:10 pm

I wonder if there's a group buy possibility on something...

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Post by vblanche » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:30 pm

Stuart Truman wrote: something...
to what do you think? disklock? aftermarket alarm?
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