B3.3 - Head Gasket?
B3.3 - Head Gasket?
This post is cathartic as much as anything - not much I can do until garages open on Monday...
But....
Driving my e46 B3.3 yesterday. Did about 25 miles pottering about, stopped twice to do things, everything running wonderfully.
Pulled into my driveway and the car started running terribly, really lumpy idle to the extent that it wouldn’t run without some gas.
Checked this morning and it’s still the same but something has leaked/is leaking from the car. Slightly oily sheen but no colour or smell.
My fear is that this is coolant, and previous owner didn’t have a strong enough antifreeze mix. Wondering if recent cold weather has meant head gasket? However:
1) Aware this is pretty unusual on the 3.3, more common on the 3.4?
2) If that was the case how come it was running so well for the 2 hours or so before?
Does look to me like the coolant has dropped though. Also think there might be water in the PAS fluid too but can’t see how that can link to rough running.
To say I’m annoyed/disillusion is an understatement. Car is high miles at 164k but it’s had a lot of love and attention over the years (there’s a huge progress file from the PO on this very forum). I bought in May this year and it’s alrady swallowed quite a lot of cash, not looking forward to spending more to repair this one.
But....
Driving my e46 B3.3 yesterday. Did about 25 miles pottering about, stopped twice to do things, everything running wonderfully.
Pulled into my driveway and the car started running terribly, really lumpy idle to the extent that it wouldn’t run without some gas.
Checked this morning and it’s still the same but something has leaked/is leaking from the car. Slightly oily sheen but no colour or smell.
My fear is that this is coolant, and previous owner didn’t have a strong enough antifreeze mix. Wondering if recent cold weather has meant head gasket? However:
1) Aware this is pretty unusual on the 3.3, more common on the 3.4?
2) If that was the case how come it was running so well for the 2 hours or so before?
Does look to me like the coolant has dropped though. Also think there might be water in the PAS fluid too but can’t see how that can link to rough running.
To say I’m annoyed/disillusion is an understatement. Car is high miles at 164k but it’s had a lot of love and attention over the years (there’s a huge progress file from the PO on this very forum). I bought in May this year and it’s alrady swallowed quite a lot of cash, not looking forward to spending more to repair this one.
Re: B3.3 - Head Gasket?
Well if it is the head gasket then have a look at the thread about mine when it started weeping at the back of the block on the 3.2 engine,
which is the same bore size as your 3.3 as you can see from the head gasket part number below, (your additional capacity comes from a longer stroke crankshaft),
the amount and correct grade of antifreeze is important and, I think, that's where things went wrong with mine as mentioned in the thread.
https://thealpinaregister.com/forums/vi ... 38&t=15257
Hopefully it turns out to be something else on yours and is a quick fix, good luck.
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which is the same bore size as your 3.3 as you can see from the head gasket part number below, (your additional capacity comes from a longer stroke crankshaft),
the amount and correct grade of antifreeze is important and, I think, that's where things went wrong with mine as mentioned in the thread.
https://thealpinaregister.com/forums/vi ... 38&t=15257
Hopefully it turns out to be something else on yours and is a quick fix, good luck.
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Steve C
'98 B10 3.2 #88 (for summer cruising)
'04 Mini Cooper S (commuting/sacrificial shopping trolley target....)
'94 325i Coupe SOLD
'88 Vauxhall Senator 3.0i SOLD
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'98 B10 3.2 #88 (for summer cruising)
'04 Mini Cooper S (commuting/sacrificial shopping trolley target....)
'94 325i Coupe SOLD
'88 Vauxhall Senator 3.0i SOLD
'90 Astra MkII GTE 16V (Turbo conversion) SOLD
Re: B3.3 - Head Gasket?
That seems remarkably familiar - and mine is #88 too.
Am hacked off with it tbh. Tempted to leave it in the garage and sulk but not really a long term option. I’m midway between Phil at CPC and the guys at TCS in High Wycombe- will get it recovered to one or the other and just tell them to fix it.
(Maybe. Or just flog it broken. Or fix it then sell it. Or part exchange it. Or or or....)
Am hacked off with it tbh. Tempted to leave it in the garage and sulk but not really a long term option. I’m midway between Phil at CPC and the guys at TCS in High Wycombe- will get it recovered to one or the other and just tell them to fix it.
(Maybe. Or just flog it broken. Or fix it then sell it. Or part exchange it. Or or or....)
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What does it look like under your oil filler cap ?
Is the expansion tank still full?
Did the temp gauge go through the roof at any stage ?
Is the expansion tank still full?
Did the temp gauge go through the roof at any stage ?
B3 3.3 Coupe #090
D3 2.0 Biturbo Touring #098
D3 2.0 Biturbo Touring #098
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Oil looks fine, no gunk/mayo. Temperature didn’t spike at any point and needle remained in middle of gauge.
Expansion tank is low and there are active drops from bottom of car (or at least there were when I put it back in the garage this morning). I’ve got a couple of trays under it to see what I can collect.
Who knows, guessing head gasket as seems to make sense but in all honesty I’m just guessing. I’m about 10 miles from Phil at CPC so will make a call tomorrow and see if I can get I recovered to him for a proper diagnosis.
Mainly just venting. I bought in May, since then it’s had 2 new tyres, front wheel refurb, some paint, the auto-electrician has been out to sort the heated seats and some warning lights, it’s had a service and checkover and just this week £500 on getting the audio sorted.
Expansion tank is low and there are active drops from bottom of car (or at least there were when I put it back in the garage this morning). I’ve got a couple of trays under it to see what I can collect.
Who knows, guessing head gasket as seems to make sense but in all honesty I’m just guessing. I’m about 10 miles from Phil at CPC so will make a call tomorrow and see if I can get I recovered to him for a proper diagnosis.
Mainly just venting. I bought in May, since then it’s had 2 new tyres, front wheel refurb, some paint, the auto-electrician has been out to sort the heated seats and some warning lights, it’s had a service and checkover and just this week £500 on getting the audio sorted.
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And so off goes #88 to CPC. Fingers crossed for a simple - and cheap - verdict!
I'm going to move the rest of the comments into the main thread for this car:
https://thealpinaregister.com/forums/vi ... &start=165
I'm going to move the rest of the comments into the main thread for this car:
https://thealpinaregister.com/forums/vi ... &start=165
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Re: B3.3 - Head Gasket?
That looks lovely - even if it is on the back of a breakdown lorry....
1999 #032 Alpina B3 3.3 saloon (UK Press Car) - Buchloe Beast
2000 Porsche Boxster S - Viola
2015 Audi A4 Avant Ultra - Wife's car
2002 VW Lupo 1.4 16v - Daughter's car
2000 Porsche Boxster S - Viola
2015 Audi A4 Avant Ultra - Wife's car
2002 VW Lupo 1.4 16v - Daughter's car
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Thanks, I do love the way these cars look (when they're not on the back of a breakdown truck! )
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It's in safe hands - they've done all but one of the HGs on my B3S along with everything else that's been needed. Ideally, see if you can get Boris to do the work.
Charles
Teacher of Chemistry and driver of ALPINAs - not necessarily in that order
B3S Touring (49/116) - been to the moon and now on the way back!
Renault Grand Espace - not mine but the wife's!
Teacher of Chemistry and driver of ALPINAs - not necessarily in that order
B3S Touring (49/116) - been to the moon and now on the way back!
Renault Grand Espace - not mine but the wife's!
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Hope he's more honest and sincere as a mechanic compared to being our Prime Minister
2019 G31 B5 Biturbo No.299
2012 F10 D5 Biturbo No.13
1993 Mercedes 190E 2.6 Sportline spec
1991 Mk1 Golf GTI Sportline cabriolet
2012 F10 D5 Biturbo No.13
1993 Mercedes 190E 2.6 Sportline spec
1991 Mk1 Golf GTI Sportline cabriolet
Re: B3.3 - Head Gasket?
Still hoping that my armchair diagnosis isn’t that at all, and instead it’s something entirely simple Well, a man can dream...
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Any news?
Charles
Teacher of Chemistry and driver of ALPINAs - not necessarily in that order
B3S Touring (49/116) - been to the moon and now on the way back!
Renault Grand Espace - not mine but the wife's!
Teacher of Chemistry and driver of ALPINAs - not necessarily in that order
B3S Touring (49/116) - been to the moon and now on the way back!
Renault Grand Espace - not mine but the wife's!
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Just updated the main thread actually.
Wasn't head gasket - for which I'm very grateful as I think it would have pretty much written off the car. Instead (after much head scratching) they discovered that a couple of the injector seals were missing! Theory is that they passed through the engine and out of the exhaust as they found no trace of them, and also no damage.
Didn't find any other fluid leaks and all is fine now they've been replaced. Asked them to do an overall health/fluids check and came back clear - other than some exhaust mounts that they replaced. Very odd, but I've done about 30 miles in the car since collecting yesterday and it's driving perfectly.
Lucky escape for me.
Wasn't head gasket - for which I'm very grateful as I think it would have pretty much written off the car. Instead (after much head scratching) they discovered that a couple of the injector seals were missing! Theory is that they passed through the engine and out of the exhaust as they found no trace of them, and also no damage.
Didn't find any other fluid leaks and all is fine now they've been replaced. Asked them to do an overall health/fluids check and came back clear - other than some exhaust mounts that they replaced. Very odd, but I've done about 30 miles in the car since collecting yesterday and it's driving perfectly.
Lucky escape for me.
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I’m sure I just answered this somewhere else, a very good result really, amazed if it was injector "o"rings that you didn’t smell fuel. Unless as it leaked it washed oil and crap of the side of the engine/undertray area. Hope you have a good run now, a week at least.
B3 1999 (090)
E30 M3 1990
X5 4.6is
VW Mk4 R32
E30 M3 1990
X5 4.6is
VW Mk4 R32