e23 for restoration

hap · Post by **hap** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:02 pm

Looking forward to the pics and possible meet up as only down the a180 from meggies

greenelekta · Post by **greenelekta** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:13 pm

Sounds like a great find, good luck with it. Look forward to some pictures.

AG · Post by AG » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:38 pm

Rocky, it is a UK car only, never produced in Germany at all as it was created in response to the e23 745 that was available at the time in Europe, so it was built in Sytners workshop and was the 1st B10 made of the 22 planned.

Yes it was FS's car for a short while, and it was also the demonstrator to be used by all to advertise the new B10.

be good to see some photographs when you can. Been looking for this one for around 15 years !

But to clarify the Sytner connection, he took over as sole concessionaire/importer in 1983. And they were responsible for a number of variants only available here in the UK.

rocky · Post by **rocky** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:28 pm

Hi everyone,
thank you all for the interest you have shown, the information you have given me and the encouragement to try and make it a proper job of restoring the car. I have taken some photographs of the car in situ and will post these when I get help to master the technology of downloading them onto the website. I will be moving the car shortly and will take more photographs by which time I hope I will have found out how to let you see them. Once the car has been removed from its present lock-up you will no doubt be able to help me to decide how best to proceed. Thank you AG for the information you have provided I will let Sytners know the position as it was they who told me that they believed the car must have been produced in Germany. Sadly they do not have a built sheet nor do they seem to have any other information in their records. They are however making enquiries and stuff who were employed in the 80s to see if there is any anecdotal evidence, however your detailed knowledge has probably made that necessary.
As this appears to be an important car I will try and keep you informed of the progress.

rocky · Post by **rocky** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:30 pm

Correction AG UNNECESSARY!

Gee.Singh · Post by **Gee.Singh** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:16 pm

At this present time
I believe AG, Andrew has more knowledge than Sytner on all the older cars
Plus he's a proper genuine helpful person who has got the time to advise and help you on the earlier cars to move forward

AG · Post by AG » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:17 pm

Gee, you make me blush..... But if I can help in any way then just drop me a pm, I'm just glad it survives.

From the build info I have here with me I can see when it was ordered/built/sold and the items fitted and where this was done. All from Sytner themselves at the time as we took that info directly from the build cards they were just about to throw in the skip!

E24man · Post by **E24man** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:32 pm

AG · Post by AG » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:56 pm

you are quite right, some of the last UK supplied e28 B10's were made by Buchloe, ordered and collected by their owner from Alpina, and these feature an Alpina chassis number however no e23 B10 was made in Germany, they ceased to continue the e23 beyond the B9.

Also I thought the e34 was Alpina built and supplied, as per the e36 B3's etc as they had an Alpina vin. Mind you I don't know my e34's that well.

hap · Post by **hap** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:55 am

Sure e34 hand built in the uk the e36 was the first built in Germany with the crossed out vin

Op have you got the car home and pics sorted ?

E24man · Post by **E24man** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:33 pm

hap · Post by **hap** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:24 pm

Agreed Kevin I'm going by some I've seen that have the random 4digit plaque as they came in 1988 onwards as the c2 was same time and built my sytner
There will be anomalies of course with some being built direct by Alpina
Think I read it in a road test mag also

rocky · Post by **rocky** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:51 pm

Good afternoon everyone,
I am hopeful that the car can be moved early next week. I will try and find someone who can help me to post the photos I have of the car in situ (dust and all). In the meantime I will have my fingers crossed that we will be able to get it started and that the restoration will not prove to be beyond my means.
Thanks for all your input

E24man · Post by **E24man** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:47 pm

hap · Post by **hap** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:03 am

Have you got the car now rocky?