Bmw performance oil 0w30 main dealer?

hap · Post by **hap** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:16 am

Just rang up mine previously they used castrol edge fst titaniim fully synthetic LL 5w30
Now they say use own bmw performance branded 0w30 its was parts I spoke to but will ask service

Just concerned as I need a litre now n again to top up and sound like I will have to go to to dealer? Unless it's actually castrol again but under the bmw name

Thanks

Broch · Post by **Broch** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:35 pm

BMW changed to Shell oils not so long ago.
I asked Andreas about this and he told me that Alpina still recommend Castrol
I will continue to supply my own oil at service times

Onzie

hap · Post by **hap** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:33 pm

Thanks onzi think I will do that as well possibly
I'll check if it is shell with the dealer this week although read via Google IT meets all the criteria/specification and is just as good?

Post by **Charles** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:47 pm

Why charge a fortune for a branded oil and only get a small slice when you can charge slightly less (appears cheaper) and get an even bigger slice?

I am currently using Shell Ultra fully synthetic 5W-40 which meets all the specification requirements for BMW and can get 10 litres for about Â£50 (Â£5 per litre) compared to nearer Â£80 for 8 litres of Castrol (Â£10 per litre).

Alternatively, you can buy a litre from the dealer and pay Â£18

rc944 · Post by **rc944** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:56 pm

you could probably get even cheaper stuff that meets the spec so why not go for that?

Metrics · Post by **Metrics** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:03 pm

Charles wrote:Why charge a fortune for a branded oil and only get a small slice when you can charge slightly less (appears cheaper) and get an even bigger slice?

I am currently using Shell Ultra fully synthetic 5W-40 which meets all the specification requirements for BMW and can get 10 litres for about Â£50 (Â£5 per litre) compared to nearer Â£80 for 8 litres of Castrol (Â£10 per litre).

Alternatively, you can buy a litre from the dealer and pay Â£18

Holy (oil) smokes Batman, I buy 4l Castrol Edge (the previous BMW oil of choice, LL04) from Costco for Â£27

hicky73 · Post by **hicky73** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:47 pm

im using Millers Oil which was recommended by a BMW Technician.

when i contacted Millers direct they agreed that there were 2 oil alternatives for my D3 Alpina MT. I went along with Millers Oils XF Longlife C3 Fully Synthetic 5W30 it cost Â£31.00 for 5 ltrs Obviously i bought more than that due to the amount needed.

PliSsK · Post by **PliSsK** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:11 pm

The B10 V8 supplementary owners manual states Castrol GLX, and the BMW 540i manual states 0W or 5W between 30 and 50. I've seen recommendations for 0W30, but isn't the 0 to cover all bases for extreme cold weather use and for better fuel economy? I am in the UK would 5W be better? The stealer used 5W40 previously, LL04 (unspecified) the time after that, and are currently quoting for Shell Helix (Ultra?), not sure what spec, it didn't say. The local garage uses 5W30, but I might try Gulf Competition 0W30.

PliSsK · Post by **PliSsK** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:11 pm

I asked Sytner UK about the rumours circulating about recommendations for using 10W60 on all Alpinas, and specifically whether this was true for the E39 B10 V8, and they told me that originally 5W30 was recommended but this changed to 0W30. Apparently the E90 B3s had issues with elevated oil consumption and Alpina responded by recommending 10W60, a thicker oil, to address this, presumably meaning less frequent oil top ups. On the E39 B10 V8 they said one could use either 0W30 or 10W60, depending on whether oil consumption was an issue or not, although I find it a little strange that they don't suggest anything in between for minor to moderate oil consumption issues, like 5W40, but there you go.

rc944 · Post by **rc944** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:25 pm

this explains why opie oils show a 10/60

Metrics · Post by **Metrics** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:59 am

PliSsK wrote:I asked Sytner UK about the rumours circulating about recommendations for using 10W60 on all Alpinas, and specifically whether this was true for the E39 B10 V8, and they told me that originally 5W30 was recommended but this changed to 0W30. Apparently the E90 B3s had issues with elevated oil consumption and Alpina responded by recommending 10W60, a thicker oil, to address this, presumably meaning less frequent oil top ups. On the E39 B10 V8 they said one could use either 0W30 or 10W60, depending on whether oil consumption was an issue or not, although I find it a little strange that they don't suggest anything in between for minor to moderate oil consumption issues, like 5W40, but there you go.

IMO there is no reason to deviate from the factory oil grade unless there's a oil consumption issue. The 3.3/3.4 lumps are well documented to use some oil, so in this case it would make sense to try an alternative oil grade. 10w60 is the oil of choice for M engines IIRC.
The M62 V8 engines on the other hand are well known not to use a drop of oil even into serious mileages. In which case I seen no reason to deviate from the factory suggested 0w30.

hap · Post by **hap** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:50 am

Can I just check is it 6 litres of oil required for oil service on the e46 pls ? Google suggests 5.5 to 6 I might get another 4 litre while its still on offer

PliSsK · Post by **PliSsK** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:36 pm

Metrics wrote:IMO there is no reason to deviate from the factory oil grade unless there's a oil consumption issue. The 3.3/3.4 lumps are well documented to use some oil, so in this case it would make sense to try an alternative oil grade. 10w60 is the oil of choice for M engines IIRC. The M62 V8 engines on the other hand are well known not to use a drop of oil even into serious mileages. In which case I seen no reason to deviate from the factory suggested 0w30.

That is more or less my observation. My 4.6 lump has not used up any oil in between services although my mileage is very low. I was wondering, does anyone add a friction modified to their B10 oil?

PliSsK · Post by **PliSsK** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:53 pm

hap wrote:Can I just check is it 6 litres of oil required for oil service on the e46 pls ? Google suggests 5.5 to 6 I might get another 4 litre while its still on offer

It will tell u in your BMW E46 manual and also in your Alpina Supplementary manual.

Post by **Charles** » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:10 pm

PliSsK wrote:
hap wrote:Can I just check is it 6 litres of oil required for oil service on the e46 pls ? Google suggests 5.5 to 6 I might get another 4 litre while its still on offer
It will tell u in your BMW E46 manual and also in your Alpina Supplementary manual.

6.3 litres required