Alpina B12 5.0 e32

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Post by AG » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:16 pm

lovely B12 that and in green, great colour, my all time favourite, closest I have is a swb v12 750i!

A great buy, however I also know the other B12 you posted up. B12MPH, and that one is incredible, an excellent example, but as for value, always hard to judge considering so few were sold originally here in the UK and if that e28 B9 (or 10?) is 'worth' £12k as it stands then a really really good B12 has to nigh on £18/20k today.
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Post by Gee.Singh » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:43 pm

Why are there no Alpina Chassis numbers on the strut top on B12 MPH
On the Green B12 they are present
Has it been reshelled at one time in its life ???

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Post by E24man » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:36 pm

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Post by simon13 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:05 pm

Gee.Singh wrote:Why are there no Alpina Chassis numbers on the strut top on B12 MPH
On the Green B12 they are present
Has it been reshelled at one time in its life ???
you should know this, bread and butter knowledge for true alpina fans.

Alpina took RHD production in house in 1993/4 and like now they make RHD/LHD cars all in house

Some people sneer at the early TWR/sytners built cars but let them !
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Post by CharlesM » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:12 pm

When did TWR have a hand in building Alpinas here (I'm assuming that from your comment Simon?). I have a friend who used to be a development technician for TWR and I'm wondering if he came across them.

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Post by simon13 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:28 pm

CharlesM wrote:When did TWR have a hand in building Alpinas here (I'm assuming that from your comment Simon?). I have a friend who used to be a development technician for TWR and I'm wondering if he came across them.
before Frank Sytner got the concession in 1980 ish i think. TWR was 100% making the RHD cars for this country before sytners. Problem is even for sytners cars the records are sketchy so the cars personal service history in my eyes is so vital now for provenance and values to some extent
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Post by CharlesM » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:29 pm

I think his arrival post dates that, but I'll ask him what, if anything, he knows.

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Post by Gee.Singh » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:09 pm

Okay, I didn't know that
All of my cars have Alpina Chassis numbers on them
And the Green B12 is the oldest one I own, manufactured in 1990
Does that mean all the early ones only carry the Bmw Chassis Number

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Post by hap » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:37 pm

Correct from e28 e32 e30 had bmw vin
Normally the plaque number will correspond with digits on the block and head to prove authenticity early alpina as si said were built with full blessing of alpina in Germany in the80,s before the e36 that did come with the alpina vin numbers that matches the Build number of the dash plaque

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Post by Gee.Singh » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:52 am

Do Sytner @ Nottingham still hold all records and details
Of all the earlier Alpina's that they have converted ??
And are they available from them ??

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Post by E24man » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:10 pm

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Post by AG » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:58 pm

Apparently they don't anymore, when Sytners were bought out years ago they disposed of most of their earlier records before a few of us could save what could be saved. Andy Douglas went to Sytners and recorded all he could from the paper/card records they had before they went in the bin. I was lucky enough to get a copy of this record sheet.

This is why its now so hard to clarify what is or what isn't a genuine Sytner built car before the advent of the e36.

Thankfully for my interest it gave me all the e32 B12's sold here in the UK and the majority of the e23 B10's produced and sold. The ones that are not complete are all the others including the B11/10/09 e32/34/28/24 and 30 cars.

As has been said before, if we thought proving the background of a Sytner car was hard, a TWR built car is nigh on impossible
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