B10 V8S front brakes - suggestions before I sell a kidney!
I have a certain amount of sympathy having had 3 Lotus Carlton whose brake disks and pads were £1,200 in 1991.
If it is any comfort, disks for my 730d are over £500 - equally obscene in my opinion.
If it is any comfort, disks for my 730d are over £500 - equally obscene in my opinion.
Regards,
James
2022 BMW X7 40d M-Sport
2019 BMW X5 M50d
2018 BMW M760Li
2017 BMW 530i M-Sport Touring (SOLD)
2012 BMW 520d ED (Gave it back)
2011 BMW 535d GT SE (SOLD)
2008 BMW 730d SE (SOLD)
2007 BMW X5 3.0d SE (SOLD)
2007 D3 Touring 166 (SOLD)
2005 BMW 750i Sport (SOLD)
2005 BMW 730d Sport (SOLD)
2001 B10 V8 Touring 012/1 (SOLD)
2001 B10 V8 saloon 044/1 (SOLD)
1999 BMW 750iL (SOLD)
1997 BMW 750iL (SOLD)
James
2022 BMW X7 40d M-Sport
2019 BMW X5 M50d
2018 BMW M760Li
2017 BMW 530i M-Sport Touring (SOLD)
2012 BMW 520d ED (Gave it back)
2011 BMW 535d GT SE (SOLD)
2008 BMW 730d SE (SOLD)
2007 BMW X5 3.0d SE (SOLD)
2007 D3 Touring 166 (SOLD)
2005 BMW 750i Sport (SOLD)
2005 BMW 730d Sport (SOLD)
2001 B10 V8 Touring 012/1 (SOLD)
2001 B10 V8 saloon 044/1 (SOLD)
1999 BMW 750iL (SOLD)
1997 BMW 750iL (SOLD)
OK thanks, that's another option, I've just completed the quote form so I'll see what they come back with.Metrics wrote:Barry, using these guys I think, seem to have the best write up:
http://www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk/
There's even a testimonial from Matt Stripling on the site!
2001 Alpina B10 V8 #185
1982 Krauser MKM1000 #121 - sold
1982 Krauser MKM1000 #121 - sold
Done some more research, thought Id share for others:
The discs and pads went up in price, on Sat 13th Feb. I think that's called Sod's law!! The discs and pads were £1500, now are just over £2000 inc.
The calipers are Brembo BBK. They were fitted to literally loads of cars, Ferrari F40, XKR, Astons etc. There are literally 10s of choices on pad options that fit the car at a fraction of the £500 Alpina are charging, as long as you are prepared to live without the brake pad wear sensor. (For example standard Pagid pads available for £50!)
There are a few options on alternative discs too:
Tarox do a bespoke disc for this application, and while they are 2 piece, they are not true floating discs (like the originals).
A brake specialist in Lancs can make a new floating disc to spec, using new bells and rotors, using AP parts - so top notch quality. Cheaper than OE.
Barry, spoke to your suggested caliper refurbishing company this morning (the guy on Facebook, based in Rochdale) - he's a top bloke, spent ages on the phone to me this morning explaining what he does and suggesting options for this brake dilemma. I will definitely be using him, very impressed by his approach and knowledge. Thanks for the heads up Barry!
I'll keep you posted with how this develops in case it helps other V8s owners, as there's so many of us, not! I've certainly not seen a definitive guide on this subject, other than to go OE, so an alternative might be useful!
The discs and pads went up in price, on Sat 13th Feb. I think that's called Sod's law!! The discs and pads were £1500, now are just over £2000 inc.
The calipers are Brembo BBK. They were fitted to literally loads of cars, Ferrari F40, XKR, Astons etc. There are literally 10s of choices on pad options that fit the car at a fraction of the £500 Alpina are charging, as long as you are prepared to live without the brake pad wear sensor. (For example standard Pagid pads available for £50!)
There are a few options on alternative discs too:
Tarox do a bespoke disc for this application, and while they are 2 piece, they are not true floating discs (like the originals).
A brake specialist in Lancs can make a new floating disc to spec, using new bells and rotors, using AP parts - so top notch quality. Cheaper than OE.
Barry, spoke to your suggested caliper refurbishing company this morning (the guy on Facebook, based in Rochdale) - he's a top bloke, spent ages on the phone to me this morning explaining what he does and suggesting options for this brake dilemma. I will definitely be using him, very impressed by his approach and knowledge. Thanks for the heads up Barry!
I'll keep you posted with how this develops in case it helps other V8s owners, as there's so many of us, not! I've certainly not seen a definitive guide on this subject, other than to go OE, so an alternative might be useful!
2019 G31 B5 Biturbo No.299
2012 F10 D5 Biturbo No.13
1993 Mercedes 190E 2.6 Sportline spec
1991 Mk1 Golf GTI Sportline cabriolet
2012 F10 D5 Biturbo No.13
1993 Mercedes 190E 2.6 Sportline spec
1991 Mk1 Golf GTI Sportline cabriolet
Thanks for the breakdown Metrics. Costs seemed to have gone up a lot more than an inflationary rise and although I don't mind shelling out because we have specialist cars this just makes you feel that you are being well and truly shafted when you consider it is just chunks of machined metal and some linings.
I need to measure my discs to check wear and decide. Still got an interest in non OEM set-up only if there was a significant saving and it was good.
I need to measure my discs to check wear and decide. Still got an interest in non OEM set-up only if there was a significant saving and it was good.
John
Alpina Blue B10 V8S #54 Saloon
Montreal Red F20 M-Sport
Sparkling Bronze F30 Xdrive (sold)
Titan Silver E90 325iSE (sold)
Blue Mini Cooper (sold)
Alpina Blue B10 V8S #54 Saloon
Montreal Red F20 M-Sport
Sparkling Bronze F30 Xdrive (sold)
Titan Silver E90 325iSE (sold)
Blue Mini Cooper (sold)
JASV8S
Agree 100%. Parts are now 33% more which as you say is a very big jump in costs.
Another update on options for discs:
There are a number of companies around the UK I've spoken to this morning that specialise in bespoke brakes and race applications. It's great to know these sort of places still exist as they're run by proper gents, the sort of folk who love cars, engineering and helping people. I guess they like the challenge and like helping folk like us who are looking after cars that are a bit special. I have a lot of time for engineers, they made this nation of ours great!!! <cue Elgar's Nimrod > I digress...
These guys can supply rotors and bells to the exact configuration needed for the V8S, using AP components, including rotors in the correct (and obscure) size of 360 x 34. Cost is circa £1000.
Alternatively there's a possibility that the bells can be reused, new rotors supplied with new bobbins. This may well work for me as the discs on my car are not that old, so the bells should be in good condition.
Finally, if my rotors are in good condition, they maybe able to be reground, again reflecting the fact they aren't that old or worn. This is my least favoured option, but if there's life in them and the regrinding leaves me with perfectly usable discs (within tolerance of course) then this maybe an option.
Agree 100%. Parts are now 33% more which as you say is a very big jump in costs.
Another update on options for discs:
There are a number of companies around the UK I've spoken to this morning that specialise in bespoke brakes and race applications. It's great to know these sort of places still exist as they're run by proper gents, the sort of folk who love cars, engineering and helping people. I guess they like the challenge and like helping folk like us who are looking after cars that are a bit special. I have a lot of time for engineers, they made this nation of ours great!!! <cue Elgar's Nimrod > I digress...
These guys can supply rotors and bells to the exact configuration needed for the V8S, using AP components, including rotors in the correct (and obscure) size of 360 x 34. Cost is circa £1000.
Alternatively there's a possibility that the bells can be reused, new rotors supplied with new bobbins. This may well work for me as the discs on my car are not that old, so the bells should be in good condition.
Finally, if my rotors are in good condition, they maybe able to be reground, again reflecting the fact they aren't that old or worn. This is my least favoured option, but if there's life in them and the regrinding leaves me with perfectly usable discs (within tolerance of course) then this maybe an option.
2019 G31 B5 Biturbo No.299
2012 F10 D5 Biturbo No.13
1993 Mercedes 190E 2.6 Sportline spec
1991 Mk1 Golf GTI Sportline cabriolet
2012 F10 D5 Biturbo No.13
1993 Mercedes 190E 2.6 Sportline spec
1991 Mk1 Golf GTI Sportline cabriolet
Farki nell!!
Regards,
James
2022 BMW X7 40d M-Sport
2019 BMW X5 M50d
2018 BMW M760Li
2017 BMW 530i M-Sport Touring (SOLD)
2012 BMW 520d ED (Gave it back)
2011 BMW 535d GT SE (SOLD)
2008 BMW 730d SE (SOLD)
2007 BMW X5 3.0d SE (SOLD)
2007 D3 Touring 166 (SOLD)
2005 BMW 750i Sport (SOLD)
2005 BMW 730d Sport (SOLD)
2001 B10 V8 Touring 012/1 (SOLD)
2001 B10 V8 saloon 044/1 (SOLD)
1999 BMW 750iL (SOLD)
1997 BMW 750iL (SOLD)
James
2022 BMW X7 40d M-Sport
2019 BMW X5 M50d
2018 BMW M760Li
2017 BMW 530i M-Sport Touring (SOLD)
2012 BMW 520d ED (Gave it back)
2011 BMW 535d GT SE (SOLD)
2008 BMW 730d SE (SOLD)
2007 BMW X5 3.0d SE (SOLD)
2007 D3 Touring 166 (SOLD)
2005 BMW 750i Sport (SOLD)
2005 BMW 730d Sport (SOLD)
2001 B10 V8 Touring 012/1 (SOLD)
2001 B10 V8 saloon 044/1 (SOLD)
1999 BMW 750iL (SOLD)
1997 BMW 750iL (SOLD)