Comparison Alpina D3BT against Mercedes C63 AMG

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Comparison Alpina D3BT against Mercedes C63 AMG

Post by Bri-E » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:45 pm

This weeks Autocar 27 November 2013 has an excellent comparison between D3BT and Mercedes AMG ( I think 570 ?) makes very good reading.
Difficult choice. D3 two to three times more economical plus a lot cheaper etc. :)
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Re: Comparison Alpina D3BT against Mercedes AMG

Post by big blue » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:30 pm

Bri-E wrote:This weeks Autocar 27 November 2013 has an excellent comparison between D3BT and Mercedes AMG ( I think 570 ?) makes very good reading.
Difficult choice. D3 two to three times more economical plus a lot cheaper etc. :)
This sound interesting, it would be good to get some stats for comparison :D
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Post by GuyW » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:02 pm

The comparison is the ALPINA D3 BT and the C63 AMG 507 Edition, which is 507 ps or 500 BHP.

Even though Steve Sutcliffe loves the AMG engine, he makes the ALPINA the winner. "Sweeter to travel in, either driver or passenger". The D3 is as quick as the C63 and better at over-taking.

ALPINA gets 5 stars, and the C63 AMG gets 4.5 stars.

On their test, the AMG got 16.6 mpg average and the D3 got 46.2 mpg.

The other stats are the officially quoted ones, although top speed is interesting. C63 AMG is 174 mph and D3 BT is 173 mph, despite giving away 150 bhp?!?
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Post by big blue » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:16 pm

GuyW wrote:The comparison is the ALPINA D3 BT and the C63 AMG 507 Edition, which is 507 ps or 500 BHP.

Even though Steve Sutcliffe loves the AMG engine, he makes the ALPINA the winner. "Sweeter to travel in, either driver or passenger". The D3 is as quick as the C63 and better at over-taking.

ALPINA gets 5 stars, and the C63 AMG gets 4.5 stars.

On their test, the AMG got 16.6 mpg average and the D3 got 46.2 mpg.

The other stats are the officially quoted ones, although top speed is interesting. C63 AMG is 174 mph and D3 BT is 173 mph, despite giving away 150 bhp?!?
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Post by GuyW » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:07 pm

oh, and I forgot to mention that the AMG is £68k and the ALPINA is £48k ....

:lol: :lol:

Its a full 5 page review - worth buying the mag for!
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Post by big blue » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:22 pm

GuyW wrote:oh, and I forgot to mention that the AMG is £68k and the ALPINA is £48k ....

:lol: :lol:

Its a full 5 page review - worth buying the mag for!
Will be doing so thanks for the spot and original post Bri.
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Post by Chas » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:57 pm

GuyW wrote:Even though Steve Sutcliffe loves the AMG engine, he makes the ALPINA the winner.
ALPINA gets 5 stars, and the C63 AMG gets 4.5 stars.
On their test, the AMG got 16.6 mpg average and the D3 got 46.2 mpg.
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Post by Bri-E » Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:24 pm

Thanks GuyW for the correct model etc, you can tell I was a a little excited.
I managed the right numbers but in the wrong order !! :oops:
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Post by GuyW » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:31 am

Many people reckon that the B10 is the best car ALPINA have ever made. Certainly Patrick Fuller (who was editor of Autocar when the B10 came out) said that the recent long term test D5 was the second best car he had driven, the first was the B10. One main criticism of the D5 was that it is a big, heavy car.

I think the D3 BT is going to be a worthy replacement for your B10.
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Post by MickB3 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:32 pm

WOW Praise indeed, the new D3 BT seems to tick all the boxes. I think I am going to be as green as my car when one pulls into my local car park. :wink:
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Post by simon13 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:13 pm

GuyW wrote:Many people reckon that the B10 is the best car ALPINA have ever made. Certainly Patrick Fuller (who was editor of Autocar when the B10 came out) said that the recent long term test D5 was the second best car he had driven, the first was the B10. One main criticism of the D5 was that it is a big, heavy car.

I think the D3 BT is going to be a worthy replacement for your B10.
Do you mean the e34 bi turbo?
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Post by GuyW » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:38 pm

No. I meant the F30 D3 BT. It is shorter and 300kg lighter than the D5. I appreciate the e34 D3 is much lighter still, but lacks the power to really compete in this sector of the market.
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Post by chrisbin » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:57 pm

Excellent stuff....but.....words can't convey the sound of that AMG..... 8) 8)
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Post by neil » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:43 pm

chrisbin wrote:Excellent stuff....but.....words can't convey the sound of that AMG..... 8) 8)
Loved driving the SLS AMG earlier the year - THE NOISE !!!!

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Post by GuyW » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:18 am

Completely agree - naturally aspirated, large capacity V8 engines, especially the AMG ones, are the best sounding.
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