Greetings to the board,
Recently my motor has developed a very annoying and potentially troublesome symptom. It started more or less suddenly some 1K miles ago, first noted when starting the car in order to leave for work one morning.
It's a whining/whistling noise that climbs and wanes with the revs. It's not audible at all at idle, barely audible between idle and 2K rpm and quite noticeable above 2K rpm unless pressing the accelerator aggressively, when it's either not audible or altogether gone (quite hard to tell the difference for obvious reasons). As it follows the revs, it disappears completely whenever pressing the clutch during gear changes.
As far as I can tell the noise is whining or whistling (sounds almost as if the car was equipped with a supercharger or turbocharger) as opposed to rattling or clanking. It's ever so slightly less pronounced when the engine is hot, but the difference is negligible.
The noise is distinctly coming from the engine bay, probably on the intake side of the engine - noise is next to inaudible during idle, and it's kind of hard to listen under the bonnet while driving. It's obviously quite more noticable with the windows down, or from the outside of the car.
Reading about similar issues on general BMW boards pointed to a leak somewhere in the intake hoses. The usual culprit is however specific to BMWs and not present on our Alpinas, I also had a leakage/smoke test performed that confirmed there are no leaks whatsoever.
Mileage is just above 90,000 kms / 56,000 miles, the car has always been serviced with Alpina specialists ahead of schedule with oil and filter changes in between. An intermittent error light for the rear fog light aside, there are no error lights and no error codes. The car drives more or less like normal, perhaps a tiny bit on the sluggish side compared to earlier, before this symptom started.
I would really like some assistance with this, as Alpina specialists are few and far between in Sweden, and BMW specialists are, for whatever unknown reason, usually very reluctant to deal with Alpinas.
Whining/whistling noise following revs on B3S
Whining/whistling noise following revs on B3S
Alecci
'04 BMW/Alpina B3 S #110
'97 BMW/Alpina B10 V8 #121 - sold Aug 2011
'80 BMW/Alpina B7 Turbo #156 - sold Jul 2004
'04 BMW/Alpina B3 S #110
'97 BMW/Alpina B10 V8 #121 - sold Aug 2011
'80 BMW/Alpina B7 Turbo #156 - sold Jul 2004
Does sound like some kind of air leak. But without hearing it for myself it is hard to say.
One thing that I used to use when trying to trace such noises is a length of rubber hose. Place one end to your ear and then the other in the area that you think the noise is coming from. Of course the noise will become louder the closer you are to the noise.
A word of warning though. Take great care when doing this, because the engine will be running and the fan rotating. So make sure you keep all dangly bits out of the way.
For mechanical noises the principle is the same. Only using a thin length of wood or a long wooden handle screw driver.
One thing that I used to use when trying to trace such noises is a length of rubber hose. Place one end to your ear and then the other in the area that you think the noise is coming from. Of course the noise will become louder the closer you are to the noise.
A word of warning though. Take great care when doing this, because the engine will be running and the fan rotating. So make sure you keep all dangly bits out of the way.
For mechanical noises the principle is the same. Only using a thin length of wood or a long wooden handle screw driver.
1997 E36 Alpina B3 3.2 Touring. No.66
1998 E36 1.8 Touring
1989 E30 M3.
2004 E60 530D
2004 Vauxhall Signum (for the shopping)
2002 E39 M5 (Sold)
1998 E36 1.8 Touring
1989 E30 M3.
2004 E60 530D
2004 Vauxhall Signum (for the shopping)
2002 E39 M5 (Sold)
possibly the alternator bearing giving up. try a solid piece of wood stick listen test on the alternator with the egine running.
New alternator or refurb if it is. possibly the bearing on a belt tensioner.
New alternator or refurb if it is. possibly the bearing on a belt tensioner.
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B10 3.3 Touring manual n11 - SOLD
E46 330Ci Coupe MSport(Sold quick, rubbish ride)
Mini Cooper S (Returned, one of the 1st)
E36 328i Convertible (Brilliant but sold)
E36 318is and 328i Coupe (Stolen & recovered)
E36 BMW 316i Slaoon and Coupe
VW Golf Mk 1 Golf GTi (Stolen sob)
VW's lots
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Hi,only just spotted this post. It may sound a little strange to say,but I experienced a similar sounding whistle a few years ago.Mechanics couldn't identify it,the whistle came and went randomly and occasionally carried on a few seconds after the engine was stopped.Searched everywhere for a clue,induction system,servo plumbing,balance pipes,the lot!Eventually,by chance,changed engine oil filter (and oil).Whistling gone ..duff filter!Hope it helps and it's a cheap attempt.
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